Disney Abandons Spidey Over Disney-Sony Standoff And Takes Feige With Them

Disney Abandons Spidey Over Disney-Sony Standoff And Takes Feige With Them


Jay Cochran - August 20, 2019
Looks like Sony and Spider-Man will be going forward without Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige being involved. This is over Disney and Sony Pictures not being able to come to an agreement over new terms that would have given Disney a co-financing stake in the Spider-Man Universe.



According to Deadline, Disney wanted a 50/50 co-financing arrangement between the studios, and there were discussions that this might extend to other films in the Spider-Man universe. Sony flat out said no despite Far From Home becoming their biggest box office grossing film ever just this past weekend.

It's being reported that Sony has plans for two more Spider-Man films which have director Jon Watts at the helm and star Tom Holland as the web crawler, but unless something changes, Feige will have no creative involvement in those films.

It's not clear to me from the Deadline article what this means for Spider-Man's involvement in the overall MCU going forward but if the two sides can't come together and see eye-to-eye on Money, my guess is it won't be good.

Besides Spider-Man, Sony is already well on it's way with a second Venom movie which will see Andy Serkis taking the directors chair and Morbius with Jared Leto. Other Spider themed movies that have been tossed around include Silver Sable and Black Cat and a Sinister Six movie which last reported had been shelved.

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memocromatico - 2019-08-26 @ 6:17 pm
18 minutes ago, komododragin said:

Captain America andHulk wereA-list.

Arguably. While definitely recognizeable, they were far from the stars they are today. I compare these "A" "B" listings not among other Marvel heroes, or among the fandom, but with DC's standings and with pop culture presence.

11 years ago, the only heroes Marvel had that I'd consider "A-listers" were Spider-Man and the X-Men. Hulk had come from a terribly received movie, and Cap was nowhere to be seen. Most of my non-geek friends even disliked the character because they thought he was dull and boring, because the awesome things that he was doing weren't really mainstream.

What I mean is, I'd consider someone an A-lister if they were brought up in a conversation about Superman, Batman, or Spider-Man by someone not truly invested in the hobby.

Today, it's easier to forget Superman than Iron Man.

komododragin - 2019-08-26 @ 5:49 pm
On 8/23/2019 at 7:43 AM, belmont13 said:

On the bright side if this really means the end of the partnership thenSony can concentrate on their Spider Verse, maybe a crossover with 30 Seconds to Morbius or Venom, maybe we'll get that Silver Sable movie or the Black Cat movie or a Spider Womanmovie or a Miles Morales movie or a Silk movie(fist superhero movie with an Asian female lead does have a nice ring to it)and then they all get together in a Maximum Carnage crossover. Then without Spider Man projects, Kevin Feige andDisney/Marvel Studioscan concentrate on making the X-men and Fantastic Four movies sooner, win win.

But what about the Spider-Man Fantastic 4 crossover we could have gotten.

komododragin - 2019-08-26 @ 5:46 pm
On 8/23/2019 at 1:26 PM, michiganjfrog said:

agreed

Captain America andHulk wereA-list.

leokearon - 2019-08-26 @ 5:34 pm

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michiganjfrog - 2019-08-23 @ 6:26 pm
4 hours ago, Benn said:

Some of youseemto be forgetting that, in every way that matters, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, etc., were B-list characters until the MCU gave them their household names. Prior to the MCU, Marvel had Spider-Man,and--to a lesser extent--the X-Men. Nothing else came close. They built the MCU on freaks and geeks because they didn't have the rights to their A-list characters, and it worked. Compelling stories and an inter-connected universe showed the mainstream public what comic readers had seen in these characters. And they've done this repeatedly since then. Ten years ago, who would have believed that Black Panther and the Guardians of the Galaxy would be household names? Guardians is pretty much the definition of B- (or even C-) list, yet here we are... Spider-Man is one of the biggest names ever to appear in the MCU, and would have been the holy grail a decade ago, but they just don't need him anymore. The MCU makes its own A-list characters.

agreed

Benn - 2019-08-23 @ 1:58 pm

Some of youseemto be forgetting that, in every way that matters, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, etc., were B-list characters until the MCU gave them their household names. Prior to the MCU, Marvel had Spider-Man,and--to a lesser extent--the X-Men. Nothing else came close. They built the MCU on freaks and geeks because they didn't have the rights to their A-list characters, and it worked. Compelling stories and an inter-connected universe showed the mainstream public what comic readers had seen in these characters. And they've done this repeatedly since then. Ten years ago, who would have believed that Black Panther and the Guardians of the Galaxy would be household names? Guardians is pretty much the definition of B- (or even C-) list, yet here we are... Spider-Man is one of the biggest names ever to appear in the MCU, and would have been the holy grail a decade ago, but they just don't need him anymore. The MCU makes its own A-list characters.

belmont13 - 2019-08-23 @ 12:43 pm

On the bright side if this really means the end of the partnership thenSony can concentrate on their Spider Verse, maybe a crossover with 30 Seconds to Morbius or Venom, maybe we'll get that Silver Sable movie or the Black Cat movie or a Spider Womanmovie or a Miles Morales movie or a Silk movie(fist superhero movie with an Asian female lead does have a nice ring to it)and then they all get together in a Maximum Carnage crossover. Then without Spider Man projects, Kevin Feige andDisney/Marvel Studioscan concentrate on making the X-men and Fantastic Four movies sooner, win win.

mako - 2019-08-23 @ 10:35 am

Someone said at one point this was bound to happen, and I have to agree. Disney was only ever "borrowing" Spider-Man to begin with. For all intents and purposes, the cinematic version of Spidey belongs to Sony. It's a huge franchise that Sony started from nothing and have cultivated for twenty years. No way were they ever gonna give Disney the keys. Eventually, the companieswere gonna part ways, especially with Sony hard at work on their own cinematic universe.

That's not saying I don't understand Disney's move though. They may not be entitled to what they demanded, but still, they HAD to make theplay. Now composed almost entirely of second-string characters, the cracks are really gonna start to show in the MCU behemoth, and those are some pretty serious cracks.

Disney is trying to keep their house of cards standing, unfortunately, Sony owns the last ace in the deck.

newcollector24680 - 2019-08-23 @ 4:59 am

I'm going with Shartimus on this one. It's all just BS! Remember when Disney "fired" director James Gunn

Magnetotron - 2019-08-23 @ 4:06 am
16 hours ago, bashpics99 said:

yeah, at this point i think Disney needs Spidey in the mcu more than Sony needs Disney.

This...so much this. Both corporations are acting arrogantly entitled, but from a purely analytical perspective, Sony is dead on to remain recalcitrant.

When Iron Man snapped his fingers and Cap took his time trip in Endgame, it ushered in an MCU B-Team that desperately needs Spidey, Thor, Doc Strange and the Guardians to keep them relevant to audiences.

It's ironic that if Disney stays stubborn on this, when they rule almost the rest of the cinematic world (see any recent BO returns analysis in press on that matter), they very likely will capsize the whole of the MCU...and this when they just made a huge Fox deal that can ensure another 12 years of MCU relevance. But Spidey is the keystone in the bridge to that, and Sony knows it.

Disney needs to perform some risk analysis and come to terms.

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