SDCC 2022 - The Marvel Studios Panel Lays Out Phase 5 And Part Of Phase 6

all i know is that phase 4 was mostly underwhelming (altho i 'll admit haven't seen Thor yet and of course haven't seen BP 2) with Shang-Chi being the highlight for me, and even that one suffered from an overly stuffed 3rd act. The D+ shows have all had their moments but i think these series just underscore some of the weaknesses of the mcu, such as introducing interesting issues only to give them a very shallow treatment, detouring from the main narrative to hype up potential spin-off characters, and plot holes that "suspension of disbelief" allows you to paper over during a 2-3 hour movie but are harder to ignore when you have a week between episodes to think about it.

I think its best just to keep in mind that these shows are meant to be appealing to both adult fans and 9- year olds. they can and should try to improve of course but these shows are never gonna be prestige TV, despite some big name actors giving it their best shot

I am looking forward to the 2 Avengers movies as well as other offerings here and there, I'd like to say that I'm not burned out on mcu but feels like most of the projects sound OK rather than awesome. Still, mcu movies are generally among the movies i most look forward to seeing in a given year.

On 7/23/2022 at 11:26 PM, leokearon said:

To be honest there are very few of these that are exciting me. I'm pretty much suffering from MCU burnout

I worry that they're going too fast too far. I said the same thing the first time Eternals was mentioned....a big "what the...?" Thunderbolts....I don't get why they're even thinking of that at this point.

I know there's been a lot of recent grumbling from some in Hollywood that Marvel's "not real cinema" (which is ridiculous), but if they get too much ahead of themselves churning out projects for Phase 4 5 6 7 8 etc., I fear the quality will suffer.

I love Daniel Destin-Cretton and for what he has done with Shang-Chi and The Mandarin and how it gave us proper Asian representation in the MCU and now, I always see myself as the awesome Xu Wenwu. He is no doubt an excellent choice to direct Avengers: Kang Dynasty

On 7/27/2022 at 4:18 PM, monron999 said:

Probably for the best as the current state of the MCU is a giant confusing mess.

Totally agree, especially with now D+ meaning there is more stuff you have to watch before you can watch 1 movie.

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Pretty much this. It's like they had no idea what to do after Endgame but 50 vague concepts and just decided to act them all out and see what sticks. And 2025 means we have another three years of this to set through and maybe/kinda/hopefully it all works out and comes together in the end. But yeah, no structure, a million loose ends and creating even more by the month, movies and characters that *could* be part of a new team or Universe but no idea if or how they would fit in, the multiverse which just confuses things to the millionth power unless you've already read the comics for 50 years...it's hard to be hopeful at this point. Now imagine the 'X' teams somehow being rebooted and integrated into all of this in some fashion and just head explode basically.

Between the re-releases and what appears to be years of 'updated' and recylced MCU figures and the ridiculous price hikes, my budget for Legends is about 10% what it used to be. I've switched over to some other brands and the GI Joe Classified series recently, which somehow continue to be cheaper and include more in the way of accessories than Legends. And don't have to come in enclosed packaging.

I would loved a Russo's return as well, but from interviews I've seen and read I think they left the MCU with what they feel is a Mic Drop. Probably for the best as the current state of the MCU is a giant confusing mess. Not that there haven't been a good movie or show scattered in there but it's all over the place. Good thing is Cretton did a decent job with what was available to him so I suppose if anyone is capable of making sense of the Multiverse/Timestream cluster he's got as good a shot as any.

Just keep Awkwafina as far the hell away from this project as possible and you've already started on the right foot.

Hearing Daniel Cretton is doing the Kang Dynasty Avengers movie is fine, but I really hoped the Russo bros would return for at least an Avengers movie, I think they did such a good job with their Avengers Installments , and Captain America Winter Soldier & Civil War, which those 4 movies are no question in my top MCU movies, , not that I didn't like Shang Chi, it was good and fine, but it felt a bit messy, but maybe that was just that it moved away from the source material so heavily, either way I always wait for the final product for the final judgement.

So the current MCU era is the Multiverse Saga? Makes sense given what weve seen so far.

Used to be EVERY MCU offering was must see for me but that all ended with Shang Chi ( did see in theaters but had to be near the end of the run.) and the Eternals. This one could not convince myself or the family to give a $#! so unceremoniously watched over the course of 3 days on D+.. and still felt my time was wasted

only a few movies coming up have peaked my interest and only Secret Wars and DD for D+.. ah well ... all good things come to an end. At least I got 4 just awesome (IMO) Avengers films and hopefully a few more before the MCU starts relying on the X Franchise..

Its probable that the Avengers movies listed are primarily featuring Young Avengers.

I'm expecting a Young Avengers movie to get plugged in there at some point. The next Spider-Man movie, too.