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Benn - 2021-11-20 @ 10:12 pm
Oh, damn, turns out what I read wasnt technically part of the Voices series, but seems to be the same basic format, which is what got me confused. I read Women of Marvel #1, but the cover artwork featured Storm, Elektra, Gamorra, Valkyrie (Jane Foster), and Shuri of which only Gamorra had a story inside (along with Mystique, She Hulk, Marrow, Peggy Carter, Emma Frost, Medusa, Marvel Girl, Misty Knight, Lady Deathstrike, and Hela).
I would say it's because they wanted to focus on Marvel's biggest/best known black heroes for the cover (since almost everyone else there is someone who has some sort of high profile mass media presence), but then I noticed Night Thrasher, lol. (No shade; I like the character, he just seems like a bit of a deep cut compared to the rest.) Benn - 2021-11-20 @ 3:42 pm
Fair. That doesnt mean he wont appear in this, though.
On 11/18/2021 at 6:56 PM, Benn said:Is he left out? Have they given a full list of characters? If previous volumes are any indication, the characters on the cover arent necessarily the characters who get stories. He's been getting the short end of the stick ever since Ewing stopped writing him, he didn't even appear during the last Black Panther solo where is had all the African-American/African characters in the one issue fighting against the cosmic empire Benn - 2021-11-19 @ 12:56 am
On 11/18/2021 at 1:45 PM, nWoWolfpack said:Blue Marvel is always left out smh, he needs a story in this Is he left out? Have they given a full list of characters? If previous volumes are any indication, the characters on the cover arent necessarily the characters who get stories. Benn - 2021-11-19 @ 12:48 am
On 11/18/2021 at 12:23 PM, Chunkylover said:Thanks. I wasn't sure if they were able to do something like they did with Onslaught and actually connect to the real history of the X-Men. Yeah, it isnt explicitly that, but its also not not that, if that makes sense. Like they didnt just recount a bunch of events from prior continuity and say Look! See! The issue is a story about when he was a kid in the orphanage and its consistent with existing continuity, but not directly related. Obviously, though, it exists as a means of explaining sixty years of characterization, just not through direct examples. On 11/18/2021 at 12:23 PM, Chunkylover said:Why do you think Eric the Red would be Mystique? Does that solve something for you, or just put her origin somewhere? Just a compelling theory, which you can read about here:https://fanfix.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/who-claremont-originally-intended-eric-the-red-to-be-a-disguise-of-part-1-in-a-series-of-3/ On 11/18/2021 at 12:23 PM, Chunkylover said:I never understood that persona anyway. Why and how did Cyclops do it in the first place, why did it become a separate entity during the Phoenix storyline, and then become Magneto in the 90's. I couldnt say! I barely recognize anything prior to Giant-Size X-Men #1 as canon, since its all so inconsistent and poorly written. Something about rescuing Polaris from Magneto without him recognizing Cyclops? I think your other questions are more or less what led to the formulation of the theory above! It didnt make a lot of sense without answers that never got provided.
Blue Marvel is always left out smh, he needs a story in this
On 11/18/2021 at 10:38 AM, Benn said:I mean, confirmation bias is real, so who knows? I doubt every writer who ever wrote Cyclops had autism in mind for the character, but his characterization has usually been consistent with it. When I met Chris Claremont, I asked him about the theory that Eric the Red was always intended to be Mystique (which he denied), but I didnt think to ask him about Cyclops. Thanks. I wasn't sure if they were able to do something like they did with Onslaught and actually connect to the real history of the X-Men. Why do you think Eric the Red would be Mystique? Does that solve something for you, or just put her origin somewhere? I never understood that persona anyway. Why and how did Cyclops do it in the first place, why did it become a separate entity during the Phoenix storyline, and then become Magneto in the 90's. Benn - 2021-11-18 @ 3:45 pm
Anyway, back on topic, the Legacy issue of Voices was fun, and I look forward to this one too! My daughter still asks me all the time to read her the Lady Deathstrike and Emma Frost shorts, andless oftenthe Jean Grey one. Jeans her favourite character, but I think she can relate better to fancy nails and not wanting to do laundry than she can to failed attempts at botany. I actually didnt realize there were other Voices issues, so now Im gonna have to go back and read those! Benn - 2021-11-18 @ 3:38 pm
I mean, confirmation bias is real, so who knows? I doubt every writer who ever wrote Cyclops had autism in mind for the character, but his characterization has usually been consistent with it. When I met Chris Claremont, I asked him about the theory that Eric the Red was always intended to be Mystique (which he denied), but I didnt think to ask him about Cyclops.
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