On 3/27/2025 at 2:40 AM, JbombTheGreat said:I think a lot of it had to do with the changes that were happening at Marvel during that time. Specifically, between 1995-1996 Marvel artists began using more computer software art programs to draw their comics, rather than relying fully on hand-drawn pencil and paper art, as was done previously. After 1995, Marvel's comic book art became really bad across all of their titles. The 90s is my favorite era of Marvel. However, I only collect books up to about 1995 due to the lower quality art that came after. The art seems to have begun improving in the very early 2000s.
Same here. But I bowed out a little bit earlier. Shortly after the entire Image thing happened. Though I did collect certain titles a little longer. I stuck with X-Men for quite a bit longer. Then came that Joe Mads era and virtually every artist was trying to emulate his style and though it was unique at first it just became exhausting. About that time I bowed out due to the art and eventually the writing started to deteriorate to the point it's become. It's just a shame to see what the Mighty Marvel has become. I give most new titles a shot hoping the next one will be the one to set it back on track only to be disappointed. Some titles less than others but by in large the trajectory remains the same though. As I'm prone to saying. Any writer worth their weight in salt is probably working in other better paying industries at this point.
On 3/24/2025 at 8:15 AM, AndyL said:Don't know if you're old enough to remember Mark Silvestri's run on the X-men but man at the end of his run it was pretty bad. Same when he was on Wolverine. .
I think a lot of it had to do with the changes that were happening at Marvel during that time. Specifically, between 1995-1996 Marvel artists began using more computer software art programs to draw their comics, rather than relying fully on hand-drawn pencil and paper art, as was done previously. After 1995, Marvel's comic book art became really bad across all of their titles. The 90s is my favorite era of Marvel. However, I only collect books up to about 1995 due to the lower quality art that came after. The art seems to have begun improving in the very early 2000s.
On 3/22/2025 at 12:30 PM, JbombTheGreat said:Alright, so the cover of the first issue looks appealing, but by the final panel of his last issue it may be a different situation!
It happens. Generally I find his work appealing but it does get monotonous and he does tend to get sloppy. Don't know if you're old enough to remember Mark Silvestri's run on the X-men but man at the end of his run it was pretty bad. Same when he was on Wolverine. They both started off great and even though I don't think his work was terrible compared to a lot of the artists of the time but it was clearly rushed. Maybe it was a schedule or work load thing but he's one of those guys where it's very apparent when he's got time and love to put into his work versus when he's just doing his job or he's just trying to meet a deadline. That's why all these artists eventually just become cover artist where they can really concentrate on one awesome image instead of taking on full time illustrating duties of dozens of panels to fill up. I'm actually surprised and impressed by Ramos taking on this task. Of course all series today rarely run past 6 issues so he's probably only agreed to 6 issues or will bail out after that many if it continues after that. Marvel has become a master of the old bait and switch. Good thing is that if it is only a few issues we'll probably get Ramos' best for that short time.
On 3/21/2025 at 5:28 AM, AndyL said:He's one of those weird art styles that you appreciate for a while and then get tired of. Plus he does get notoriously sloppy as the series he's one goes on. Almost like he loses interest. Like it's just a job.
Alright, so the cover of the first issue looks appealing, but by the final panel of his last issue it may be a different situation!
On 3/21/2025 at 1:26 AM, JbombTheGreat said:I've never enjoyed Ramos' art, but this cover looks pretty good. Could he possibly be adjusting his style a bit?
He's one of those weird art styles that you appreciate for a while and then get tired of. Plus he does get notoriously sloppy as the series he's one goes on. Almost like he loses interest. Like it's just a job.
I've never enjoyed Ramos' art, but this cover looks pretty good. Could he possibly be adjusting his style a bit?
I love the F4. I love the entire team, I hope we can see them return to larger multi-issue stories. The short stories were fine for a bit. But, I am more interested in the bigger picture.