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14 minutes ago, tarot said:you guys are missing the point I was trying to make. Not the "it for kids thing", they will always be up for debate (I agree this is a adult collector line. I was just using the standard corporate argument). I was saying why they wouldn't put a Nazi symbol on a mass produced toy. If this was anything else like a high end item, yes you can argue that they should have the symbol in specialitystores but these are being place in toys and general stores. That wouldn't fly with most companies. Also the original person who started this was saying that Marvel were erasing the fact that Red Skull was a nazi. Never once have they ever done that. In fact they make it his agenda most times he appears. They are just using Hydra cause it is safer. "Safer" from what or who? tarot - 2021-05-11 @ 11:26 pm
you guys are missing the point I was trying to make. Not the "it for kids thing", they will always be up for debate (I agree this is a adult collector line. I was just using the standard corporate argument). I was saying why they wouldn't put a Nazi symbol on a mass produced toy. If this was anything else like a high end item, yes you can argue that they should have the symbol in specialitystores but these are being place in toys and general stores. That wouldn't fly with most companies. Also the original person who started this was saying that Marvel were erasing the fact that Red Skull was a nazi. Never once have they ever done that. In fact they make it his agenda most times he appears. They are just using Hydra cause it is safer.
30 minutes ago, Atlantis said:You're right, its ridiculous. When they announce their Monday/someday roll outs, when they do their interviews, those are not kid oriented. They're not anti-kid, mind you....of course they Hasbro expects kids to want these. But ain't no kid, no mom, out there bustin' out fittybones for MODOK, or $350.00 for a Sentinel. GTFOH. When they do their action figure reviews, do they not stipulate on that thereyoutube video, that theyre "not for kids"??In big ol' caps, "ADULT COLLECTORS". When you in those toy aisles at Tarjay, lookin' for that newest Legends wave, or that exclusive that doesn't exist, or trying in vain to get some GIJoe classifieds, and there's 2-4 other dudes lookin hard too....you know they aint 12 year olds!Come on now. Ya'll make me laugh sometimes! You know this, I know this & quite a few others here know it as well. It's just the handful that are in denial that this is an adult collector line & keep pulling the card. Denial is not a river!
31 minutes ago, Atlantis said:When they do their action figure reviews, do they not stipulate on that thereyoutube video, that theyre "not for kids"??In big ol' caps, "ADULT COLLECTORS". This here is a stretch, it's in regards to the video, not the figure being reviewed.
21 hours ago, Gigantor said:Not arguing that, just the laughable, "these are for kids" card. You're right, its ridiculous. When they announce their Monday/someday roll outs, when they do their interviews, those are not kid oriented. They're not anti-kid, mind you....of course they Hasbro expects kids to want these. But ain't no kid, no mom, out there bustin' out fittybones for MODOK, or $350.00 for a Sentinel. GTFOH. When they do their action figure reviews, do they not stipulate on that thereyoutube video, that theyre "not for kids"??In big ol' caps, "ADULT COLLECTORS". When you in those toy aisles at Tarjay, lookin' for that newest Legends wave, or that exclusive that doesn't exist, or trying in vain to get some GIJoe classifieds, and there's 2-4 other dudes lookin hard too....you know they aint 12 year olds!Come on now. Ya'll make me laugh sometimes!
2 hours ago, memocromatico said:Sure, ML may be more collector oriented because children don't have that amount of money, I'll give you that. Thing is they are sold in Toys aisle, next to children's toys. Would we wish it were different? Not really, because that would meanless availability foreveryone. I don't know or care where you do your buying, but having these at retail makes them haveto align to certain restrictions. Even getting past the are they for kids question, I can't think of a single mass retail toyline that has included swastikas. That's just not a thing here. I vaguely recall some griping a few years back that the Indiana Jones figures didn't include swastika armbands on the Nazi villains either.
48 minutes ago, memocromatico said:Sure, ML may be more collector oriented because children don't have that amount of money, I'll give you that. Thing is they are sold in Toys aisle, next to children's toys. Would we wish it were different? Not really, because that would meanless availability foreveryone. I don't know or care where you do your buying, but having these at retail makes them haveto align to certain restrictions. Not arguing that, just the laughable, "these are for kids" card.
13 minutes ago, Gigantor said:"These toys are for kids"??? Yeah, kids under 12 have $25 to splurge on ML figs or a case that costs $164. Be real, have some integrity. Sure, ML may be more collector oriented because children don't have that amount of money, I'll give you that. Thing is they are sold in Toys aisle, next to children's toys. Would we wish it were different? Not really, because that would meanless availability foreveryone. I don't know or care where you do your buying, but having these at retail makes them haveto align to certain restrictions.
On 5/8/2021 at 9:03 PM, tarot said:Of course they are not going to put a nazi symbol on a red skull. These are toys for kids. Marvel has never over written the fact that Red skull is a nazi. "These toys are for kids"??? Yeah, kids under 12 have $25 to splurge on ML figs or a case that costs $164. Be real, have some integrity. We all know the ML line is collector driven for the most part. Schools no longer teach history , let alone military history & would rather that today's pampered generation of kids grow up ignorant of the atrocities the Nazi's committed during WWII. But ignorance is also not bliss. tarot - 2021-05-09 @ 2:03 am
23 minutes ago, Flounnderr said:What's up with that Hydra armband on Red Skull??? So I guess Marvel's going to rewrite their history and hide the fact that the Red Skull wasa Nazi? Wasn't that the whole point of the Red Skull, he was the ultimate evil?! Of course they are not going to put a nazi symbol on a red skull. These are toys for kids. Marvel has never over written the fact that Red skull is a nazi.
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