Ramen Racer Base Model (Graphite Black) 1/12 Scale Vehicle Available For Pre-Order At BBTS

On 4/11/2023 at 2:32 PM, monron999 said:

The only reason to partake in this thing is to stick it to Hasbro. I'm sure there are a few people out there who wanted the Hellcharger and were willing to pay any price for it so good for them if they get this, but to me what the hell is the point of a Hellcharger without Robbie Reyes. At a grand total saving of approx 60 bucks, after the accessories packs (or whateverthehell they're calling them), no Reyes and no tier rewards, this is a total bust. Still not happy with Hasbro about the entire thing, but my issues with them don't run deep enough to invest my time or money into a bigger scam.

Yeah, it is bad enough we get Ghost Riders without their bikes, but the other way round is just as bad.

On 4/11/2023 at 6:34 PM, McHogan said:

Here's what would snag me: ML scale Alpha Flight Omni Jet, with Marrina, Roger Bochs Box, Heather Hudson, and Talisman. Yes, obscure and quite niche, but I would (gladly) sell my soul for it.

On 4/11/2023 at 10:57 AM, TheArrow said:

I'm shamelessly one of "those ML fans" who looks on/cheers on at Haslab stuff, but refuses to partake cuz..........well, I'ma cheapskate. LOLIt'll take a much-lower price-point, and far more obscure offering to get me to open my wallet.........and that's okay, because it puts me in a safe place. I can look on at what is being done, sniff at it ( or paw at the glass) and/or comment in my own merry way.But the price-point is always going to be at a strata that just kills my interest.I happily live on vicariously through those who can enjoy ( or not) whatever comes out.

Hey there's nothing wrong with that at all. I did bite at both the Sentinal and Galactus but not for FOMO, more that I thought both were reasonable. I never felt that way with the Hell Charger but fully planned on supporting.

Now, I long since sold of the Sentinel and since I never saw the value I don't miss bot having the car. But Galactus, this baby I value highly.

I do admire your self restraint however. Be curious to see if Hasbro is ever able to get you to go all in haha

My biggest issue with the Haslab was not only the price point that was ridiculous, but the fact Hasbro makes it very difficult and expensive to send this things abroad. I would have to bother some friend in US to receive it and post to me in Brazil. Hasbro should use BBTS and EE logistics to allow international costumers to be able to buy Haslabs worldwide just like Ramen is doing.

On 4/10/2023 at 7:55 PM, McHogan said:

I'm sure Hasbro THOUGHT they had a sure fire hit on their hands and were as surprised at everyone when it tanked.

I'm shamelessly one of "those ML fans" who looks on/cheers on at Haslab stuff, but refuses to partake cuz..........well, I'ma cheapskate. LOLIt'll take a much-lower price-point, and far more obscure offering to get me to open my wallet.........and that's okay, because it puts me in a safe place. I can look on at what is being done, sniff at it ( or paw at the glass) and/or comment in my own merry way.But the price-point is always going to be at a strata that just kills my interest.I happily live on vicariously through those who can enjoy ( or not) whatever comes out.

The only reason to partake in this thing is to stick it to Hasbro. I'm sure there are a few people out there who wanted the Hellcharger and were willing to pay any price for it so good for them if they get this, but to me what the hell is the point of a Hellcharger without Robbie Reyes. At a grand total saving of approx 60 bucks, after the accessories packs (or whateverthehell they're calling them), no Reyes and no tier rewards, this is a total bust. Still not happy with Hasbro about the entire thing, but my issues with them don't run deep enough to invest my time or money into a bigger scam.

On 4/11/2023 at 2:21 AM, Ironspider428 said:

See, it's a cool car. The original Haslab was a cool car. But I can't justify spending $250 on a cool car. I would have been much more likely to get the Haslab for $100 more, which also came with all the interchageable parts plus potentially 4 figures. I think the reasons it failed were justified, there's just not enough of a Robbie interest to push a $350 Haslab, but seeing how much this company is doing there's for makes me think it actually wasn't that bad of a deal. Really the only thing I truly wanted from that Haslab was Mephisto, so hopefully Hasbro finds a way to do him, though based on their comments of those tiers, it's not likely.

I'm glad anyone who wanted the car can have one, but I'm genuinely curious who is in that market. Anyone who buys this just to spite Hasbro would make me so mad.

I just want the cool car for my tiny people not to spite Hasbro or whatever... I'm just not sure I can afford this. I'll see if I can find a good price here in my part of the world.

On 4/10/2023 at 9:25 PM, TheArrow said:

This kind of thing is a good example of the classic fickleness of collectors, and why it's next to impossible for entities like Hasbro or Ramen to read us accurately.Something like Galactus or the Sentinel, Razor Crest or Unicron funds, but the Rancor or the Ghost Rider car doesn't. They cannot predict what thrills us or what trips us because there is NO common ground or threshold.You could ask a hundred collectors as to why they don't think Item X isn't a good value, and you'd get 157 answers.

I completely agree. That's why in my post I made sure to use "subjective" when gauging consumer interest. I 100% wanted the Hell Charger to succeed and with the Tiers announced was confident it would. Color me shocked when it failed spectacularly.

I'm sure Hasbro THOUGHT they had a sure fire hit on their hands and were as surprised at everyone when it tanked.

But more in the spirit of my earlier post, Hasbro saw that fans were not happy with the cost and tried to spin their stance to justify the high price. Ramen for their part saw this as well and hinted that they could do essentially the same car at a lower price. Which they did...kinda. they saw the complaints about cost and delivered their product, not to say a direct copy of what Hasbro did, at only $100 -ish dollars less. Depending on what add on kits float anyone's particular boat.

To me, and again subjectively, it seems Ramen didn't listen to collectors at all. It seems their big plan was undercutting Hasbro but still offering a product most fans don't want to pay the price for.

I considered Ramens offering and was more than willing see what they were giving us. But once I saw the cost I immediately knew I was out. I don't know what the limit any other fan is willing to spend but I know it's out of my price range and if even 100 other people feel that way then Ramen undercut themselves by not really making their product that much less than Hasbros

This kind of thing is a good example of the classic fickleness of collectors, and why it's next to impossible for entities like Hasbro or Ramen to read us accurately.Something like Galactus or the Sentinel, Razor Crest or Unicron funds, but the Rancor or the Ghost Rider car doesn't. They cannot predict what thrills us or what trips us because there is NO common ground or threshold.You could ask a hundred collectors as to why they don't think Item X isn't a good value, and you'd get 157 answers.

On 4/10/2023 at 12:20 PM, PushYouDown said:

The realities of business and especially the toy business are often lost on toy collectors.

This is probably true but businesses should do a better job of factoring in what the public would pay. These Ramen people must have seen the push back Hasbro got and still priced their product relatively close to what the majority of us decided not to pay.

I know my point is subjective but when I saw Ramens final price tag which for me if I did buy from them would cost me the add on kits as well and once again, the base product is higher than I feel is "worth" the cost to me.

I agree, collectors don't know the factors involved but neither Hasbro nor Ramen is "reading the room" as is evident by the high final costs. Sure Ramen is cheaper. But clearly not enough for fans to jump on board en mass to make this a success.

OK so factor A& B is why it costs so much. But whatever fans think it should cost goes a lot further than these companies give it credit for.

For me neither Hasbros or Ramens cost was low enough for me to feel worth in the money I'd spend. Again this is subjective but I would not have spent morethan $150 for all the bells and whistles. We didnt like Hasbros cost and their Haslab failed. Many don't like Ramens either so I guess fans may speak again with their wallets.

My best guess after reading comments here and other sites that it probably isn't a good start for Ramen when people are still asking "are you kidding me?" In concern of the price