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2 hours ago, Benn said:Again, it doesn't sound like it was a decision. Maryland very likely compelled them to close. Every US games distributor was closed for the same period of time too, and I'd wager plenty of other distributors of luxury items were in the same boat. And, I'm sorry--boo hoo,poor comic stores that couldn't get new comics. Many businesses across the world simply weren't allowed to be open. Period. I would've closed anyway, because my staff's safety is far more important than my business's survival, but I literally could not legally operate my business for two months, and haven't been able to legally operate a significant part of my business operations for over a year. I would've killed for a situation where not being able to get new merchandise was the only hurdle to overcome. It's a bad take. Your comics aren't more important than Diamond's employees' lives. Good on you for caring about your staff's safety. Our local comic shop was/is able to stay open with reduced hours, curbside service, etc. but far as I know, no one had to lose their job. Congrats on those employers that recognize and value their staff's health! Satam - 2021-03-26 @ 4:14 pm
30 minutes ago, Benn said:Again, it doesn't sound like it was a decision. Maryland very likely compelled them to close. Maryland didn't compel them to close. Diamond was forced to close. And It would have been illegal for them to resume operations within the state while Governor Hogan's stay-at-home order prohibited them from doing so. Benn - 2021-03-26 @ 3:41 pm
7 hours ago, leokearon said:It isn't a bad take. Diamond hung the comic industry out ot dry. Many comic shops around the world were still open but thanks to Diamond's monopoly and decision, they couldn't get any stock from them if they wanted to This forced them to try and sell all their own stock and hope they had enough to survive. while other business were getting in new merchandise and graphic novels from their distributors with no problem. Again, it doesn't sound like it was a decision. Maryland very likely compelled them to close. Every US games distributor was closed for the same period of time too, and I'd wager plenty of other distributors of luxury items were in the same boat. And, I'm sorry--boo hoo,poor comic stores that couldn't get new comics. Many businesses across the world simply weren't allowed to be open. Period. I would've closed anyway, because my staff's safety is far more important than my business's survival, but I literally could not legally operate my business for two months, and haven't been able to legally operate a significant part of my business operations for over a year. I would've killed for a situation where not being able to get new merchandise was the only hurdle to overcome. It's a bad take. Your comics aren't more important than Diamond's employees' lives.
This is a good move. How crazy was it that they had such a lock down on the distribution game for so long? Nothing good comes from keeping all your eggs in one basket. Diamond either has the choice to straighten up or go belly up. I think we'll find that a little bit of competition makes companies work harder and better than anyone thought they could.
8 hours ago, Benn said:Diamond is a scumbag operation, to be sure, and Marvel and DC have ample reasons to want to end their relationships with the company, but this is an extremely bad take. Diamond suspended operations for afew months, as did virtually all US distributors (and many manufacturers) of non-essential goods, for the safety of their employees, while they figured out how to keep them safe. Shutting down was the right thing to do, but it may not even have been their choice (I'm not sure what Baltimore policies were early in the pandemic, but they wouldn't have been able to continue operating legally here in Philly),and Marvel effectively did the same thing concurrently, anyway.DC didn't, but they have their own baggage. And if I'm remembering correctly, Diamond re-opened its doors months before Marvel gave them anything new to sell again, anyway. Yes,itwas rough for the people it temporarily put out of work,but it was also the safest thing for their staff, and the real blame here lies on the US government for having pandemic support that was overwhelmingly too little and too late to keep people adequately fed. Hopefully, Diamond and Marvel kept paying their staff anyway and sought whatgovernment support they could. I own a small business myself, and we were closed from March until June, open only for curbside pick-up until October, and still haven't resumed events, but I paid every single person who works for me their full wages the entire time we were closed, and made sure to apply for every aid program offered. It wasn't easy, but I'm a much smaller fish than Diamond or Marvel, and I made it work, so I'm sure they did too. It isn't a bad take. Diamond hung the comic industry out ot dry. Many comic shops around the world were still open but thanks to Diamond's monopoly and decision, they couldn't get any stock from them if they wanted to This forced them to try and sell all their own stock and hope they had enough to survive. while other business were getting in new merchandise and graphic novels from their distributors with no problem.
3 hours ago, Benn said:Yes,itwas rough for the people it temporarily put out of work,but it was also the safest thing for their staff, and the real blame here lies on the US government for having pandemic support that was overwhelmingly too little and too late to keep people adequately fed. Hopefully, Diamond and Marvel kept paying their staff anyway and sought whatgovernment support they could. I own a small business myself, and we were closed from March until June, open only for curbside pick-up until October, and still haven't resumed events, but I paid every single person who works for me their full wages the entire time we were closed, and made sure to apply for every aid program offered. It wasn't easy, but I'm a much smaller fish than Diamond or Marvel, and I made it work, so I'm sure they did too. As a small business owner my self I was in the same situation, we barely made it through but I thank god we did.
Not surprised by this move from Marvels standpoint, Diamond has a nice long run tho. It is what it is.
Interested to see how will comic shop industry adapt to this. But unlike diamond Penguin is indeed world wide company that can put marvel, especially their collected editionsinto many diverse markets and bookstores, which should in theory increase sales for Marvel. Satam - 2021-03-26 @ 1:36 am
1 hour ago, Benn said:it may not even have been their choice (I'm not sure what Baltimore policies were early in the pandemic, but they wouldn't have been able to continue operating legally here in Philly) Baltimore doesn't really matter, because non-essential businesses were required to shutdown across the entire state of Maryland for a while there at the start of the pandemic. Benn - 2021-03-26 @ 12:06 am
6 hours ago, leokearon said:Given that Diamond hung the comic industry out to dry early last year, it is not surprising that Marvel would try to find some alternatives Diamond is a scumbag operation, to be sure, and Marvel and DC have ample reasons to want to end their relationships with the company, but this is an extremely bad take. Diamond suspended operations for afew months, as did virtually all US distributors (and many manufacturers) of non-essential goods, for the safety of their employees, while they figured out how to keep them safe. Shutting down was the right thing to do, but it may not even have been their choice (I'm not sure what Baltimore policies were early in the pandemic, but they wouldn't have been able to continue operating legally here in Philly),and Marvel effectively did the same thing concurrently, anyway.DC didn't, but they have their own baggage. And if I'm remembering correctly, Diamond re-opened its doors months before Marvel gave them anything new to sell again, anyway. Yes,itwas rough for the people it temporarily put out of work,but it was also the safest thing for their staff, and the real blame here lies on the US government for having pandemic support that was overwhelmingly too little and too late to keep people adequately fed. Hopefully, Diamond and Marvel kept paying their staff anyway and sought whatgovernment support they could. I own a small business myself, and we were closed from March until June, open only for curbside pick-up until October, and still haven't resumed events, but I paid every single person who works for me their full wages the entire time we were closed, and made sure to apply for every aid program offered. It wasn't easy, but I'm a much smaller fish than Diamond or Marvel, and I made it work, so I'm sure they did too.
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