Echo Embraces The Cosmic Power Of The Phoenix Force

On 7/2/2021 at 11:47 PM, ADour said:

I'm afraid that you got me wrong. I'm not taking offense on anybody's opinion here, I'm just saying how things are. Most people here complaining about modern Marvel are talking out of their ass. Simple as that.

I have no problem with people giving modern Marvel flak, and I have no problem giving modern Marvel flak myself. I could gladly complain about the things I don't like about modern Marvel: certain writers like Jason Aaron or Christopher Cantwell, event burnt-out, lack of editorial oversight, the stimulation of the speculative market with variant covers flooding the shelves, the trigger-happiness of cancelling series before they can find their footing, the excessive wanking of the X-Men right now,etc. Hell, right now I'm completely disillusioned with Marvel's current handling of Iron Man by the aforementioned Cantwell. But I don't normally do that because that's not my thing.

So going back to what I said, I have no problem with people giving modern Marvel flak... if it's warranted. And in this forum you don't really see that kind of thing. What you find is people that don't read comics since before I was born pretending to be experts based on hearsay or assumptions. I'm just pointing that out. Setting the record straight is objective.

And applying that to this upcoming Black Cat story arc: Maybe it will be some senseless wanking of Black Cat with her single-handedly defeating 6 people in control of primordial powers (which I doubt since Jed MacKay is a good writer). But the first part of this story won't even be out for four more weeks and the story won't be over for five, maybe sixmonths.

Well spoken. My apologies if I took you out of context or intent,.

As I say, live and let live. Enjoy what makes you happy.

On 7/2/2021 at 11:47 PM, McHogan said:

Hey relax bro,.. there is taking offense to a personal attack and then being offended by an opinion in which we are all entitled.

No one here attacked you personally, we were all having fun at Marvels Expense. So disagree if you want but nothing that was said needs to be escalated..

so you are a fan of todays Marvel. Myself, Gigantor and MANY others are not so much. Live and let live friend, I begrudge you nothing for your opinion. But maybe take it down a notch, Im not here to troll but not here to squabble over comic booksor toys either. Ive disagreed with many opinions here, but thats what makes this site so great, freedom of opinion.

I'm afraid that you got me wrong. I'm not taking offense on anybody's opinion here, I'm just saying how things are. Most people here complaining about modern Marvel are talking out of their ass. Simple as that.

I have no problem with people giving modern Marvel flak, and I have no problem giving modern Marvel flak myself. I could gladly complain about the things I don't like about modern Marvel: certain writers like Jason Aaron or Christopher Cantwell, event burnt-out, lack of editorial oversight, the stimulation of the speculative market with variant covers flooding the shelves, the trigger-happiness of cancelling series before they can find their footing, the excessive wanking of the X-Men right now,etc. Hell, right now I'm completely disillusioned with Marvel's current handling of Iron Man by the aforementioned Cantwell. But I don't normally do that because that's not my thing.

So going back to what I said, I have no problem with people giving modern Marvel flak... if it's warranted. And in this forum you don't really see that kind of thing. What you find is people that don't read comics since before I was born pretending to be experts based on hearsay or assumptions. I'm just pointing that out. Setting the record straight is objective.

And applying that to this upcoming Black Cat story arc: Maybe it will be some senseless wanking of Black Cat with her single-handedly defeating 6 people in control of primordial powers (which I doubt since Jed MacKay is a good writer). But the first part of this story won't even be out for four more weeks and the story won't be over for five, maybe sixmonths.

On 7/2/2021 at 9:50 PM, ADour said:

I was going to joke that you're from the future and have read the story and that's clearly why you're giving your opinion with such authority... but then I realized that's too far-fetched of a scenario. Not because of the time-travel part, but the part about you talking about something you know about.

Hey relax bro,.. there is taking offense to a personal attack and then being offended by an opinion in which we are all entitled.

No one here attacked you personally, we were all having fun at Marvels Expense. So disagree if you want but nothing that was said needs to be escalated..

so you are a fan of todays Marvel. Myself, Gigantor and MANY others are not so much. Live and let live friend, I begrudge you nothing for your opinion. But maybe take it down a notch, Im not here to troll but not here to squabble over comic booksor toys either. Ive disagreed with many opinions here, but thats what makes this site so great, freedom of opinion.

On 7/2/2021 at 10:15 PM, Gigantor said:

Then why bother writing a story where her mission will end in failure? They obviously are writing her as the "only" one with the skill to accomplish said mission, correct? Unless the writers have powered her up lately, her only power is a "bad luck" power.

I was going to joke that you're from the future and have read the story and that's clearly why you're giving your opinion with such authority... but then I realized that's too far-fetched of a scenario. Not because of the time-travel part, but the part about you talking about something you know about.

On 7/2/2021 at 7:22 PM, ADour said:

And where are you getting that she will accomplish the mission?

Oh wait, the last question had the same answer.

Then why bother writing a story where her mission will end in failure? They obviously are writing her as the "only" one with the skill to accomplish said mission, correct? Unless the writers have powered her up lately, her only power is a "bad luck" power.

On 7/2/2021 at 8:43 PM, Gigantor said:

Then why write her as someone being capable of accomplishing this mission? But hey, you & the 10 other people buying this series enjoy it.

And where are you getting that she will accomplish the mission?

Oh wait, the last question had the same answer.

On 7/2/2021 at 6:34 PM, ADour said:

And where are you getting that she will even take them out?

Oh yeah, out of your butt. Like all your modern comic-based opinions.

Then why write her as someone being capable of accomplishing this mission? But hey, you & the 10 other people buying this series enjoy it.

On 7/2/2021 at 8:17 PM, Gigantor said:

And that sounds like a laughable plot. Any individual wielding just one infinity stone would probably be a match for the Avengers but lil ol Black Cat is gonna take out all 5 infinity stone wielders 1 at a time?? Marvel writing has really hit rock bottom.

PS Yay, girl power

And where are you getting that she will even take them out?

Oh yeah, out of your butt. Like all your modern comic-based opinions.

On 7/1/2021 at 10:47 PM, ADour said:

They didn't announce such thing. The story is that she has been hired to steal the Infinity Stones, with both the wrinkle that the stones are currently bonded to people and the fact that Felicia is100% in over her head trying to do that. That's what they've announced.

And that sounds like a laughable plot. Any individual wielding just one infinity stone would probably be a match for the Avengers but lil ol Black Cat is gonna take out all 5 infinity stone wielders 1 at a time?? Marvel writing has really hit rock bottom.

PS Yay, girl power

Echo. Of all the characters in the vast catalogue of characters in Marvel they chose to give the Phoenix to Echo? Really? OK.