Giant-Size Dark Phoenix Saga Gives Jean Grey A Chance To Change Her Fate

Revelation looks more like Doug Ramsay than he does post-transformation where he was bald and beefier. I have wanted a follow-up to Heir of Apocalypse and I am curious to see how this will play out. I wonder if Warlock will betray Revelation and side with the X-Men to remove Doug's brainwashing.

On 4/12/2025 at 4:13 AM, Bandoogiemanz said:

This is what happens when they're bereft of fresh or innovative ideas.

Serialized fiction is REALLY hard to write, because any given premise or stock of character personality types eventually runs out of steam.It was cited about 50 years ago, that in comics, there's only about 7 or 8 plot types.Stories that repeat over and over with just some mix and match variations, and when yer done those......you borrow from the other guy's comics.A couple of classic tropes: the hero who falls ( or fails) upon hard times and gives up the costume and heroics to go off and soul-search themselves. Who has not done that yet in a run of stories?Another popular one with group books is a member of the group starts to succumb to some condition or situation and becomes a great threat to the group ( or a larger community) and has to be defeated by said group.This is why a lot of long-running comics creators (still) talk about a 5-year audience cycle--that a typical reader only sticks with a book for 5 years, because the stories start to repeat themes and said reader(s) lose interest ( in comic all together) and go off to other things. And when a creator decides to really try and innovate, the comic starts getting really weird and off-the-wall and the things that made it appealing in the first place often take a hit.It's a tough craft to work in,

On 3/12/2025 at 5:09 PM, TheArrow said:

I agree, I never liked the concept of " a story is never completed, only abandoned". Mucking around again and again with a set tale is not only wishy-washy, it diminishes both the original story AND its revision.Start at your beginning, say what you are going to say, get to the end, then stop. pulling repeated "Columbo's" by going ",,,,,oh, and ONE MORE THING....." is exhausting. Tell a completely different story instead of something that works before. Stop beating the same horse to death.

This is what happens when they're bereft of fresh or innovative ideas.

I was right! They ARE ending it with "Giant-Size House of M"!

On 3/12/2025 at 10:17 PM, GarimusPrime said:

My point is that "Children's Crusade" undid what "House of M" did. Wanda began giving mutants their powers back. "X-Men: Second Coming" also did this with Hope Summers. "Trial of Magneto" simply served to remove her culpability for "House of M", in a 'legal' sense. Nothing actually got resolved, in a physical sense.

She only gave one mutant their powers back in Children Crusade (Rictor) before Doom stole the Lifeforce from her and she couldn't do it anymore. She did help Hope in AvsX, but like I said it wasn't until TOM that she was actually allowed to undo HOM

On 3/12/2025 at 5:34 PM, leokearon said:

Wanda wasn't absolved of No More Mutants until Trial of Magneto in 2021, where she was finally allowed to undo it and more. Children's Crusade just had a nonsensical way of trying to explain Disassembled and still failed at that, since it didn't address the main reason for it .

My point is that "Children's Crusade" undid what "House of M" did. Wanda began giving mutants their powers back. "X-Men: Second Coming" also did this with Hope Summers. "Trial of Magneto" simply served to remove her culpability for "House of M", in a 'legal' sense. Nothing actually got resolved, in a physical sense.

On 3/12/2025 at 9:00 PM, GarimusPrime said:

They basically undid "No More Mutants" in "Avengers: The Children's Crusade", like fifteen years ago. Plus, look at the recently ended Krakoan Age. Mutants, as a species, have been flourishing.

Wanda wasn't absolved of No More Mutants until Trial of Magneto in 2021, where she was finally allowed to undo it and more. Children's Crusade just had a nonsensical way of trying to explain Disassembled and still failed at that, since it didn't address the main reason for it .

On 2/19/2025 at 11:37 AM, RobertD said:

Generally, I prefer it when writers respect what has come before. It's one thing to update something due to the ol' sliding timescale, or even undoing really poorly made editorial choices (Avenging Angel Punisher, for example), but taking perfectly fine past stories and then cramming them with senseless "but... what if _____ where there instead?" seems both hollow and honestly a little disrespectful to the material. But some people like continuity and some people like to tread all over it, I happen to be the former.

I agree, I never liked the concept of " a story is never completed, only abandoned". Mucking around again and again with a set tale is not only wishy-washy, it diminishes both the original story AND its revision.Start at your beginning, say what you are going to say, get to the end, then stop. pulling repeated "Columbo's" by going ",,,,,oh, and ONE MORE THING....." is exhausting. Tell a completely different story instead of something that works before. Stop beating the same horse to death.

On 3/12/2025 at 1:25 PM, leokearon said:

Better yet, just get rid of "No More Mutants"

They basically undid "No More Mutants" in "Avengers: The Children's Crusade", like fifteen years ago. Plus, look at the recently ended Krakoan Age. Mutants, as a species, have been flourishing.

On 3/12/2025 at 8:59 AM, GarimusPrime said:

Can they do a "Giant-Size House of M", where Wanda says "No more Kamala Khan", and she just disappears, forever? I'd buy 50 copies of that one.

Better yet, just get rid of "No More Mutants"