Hulu Turns Down 'Marvel's Ghost Rider' Live-Action Series

On ?9?/?25?/?2019 at 7:55 PM, SpiderS said:

I am actually glad this happened, Ghost Riders deserves to be part of MCU proper, maybe appear in 3rd Doctor Strange movie or Blade movie, hes too good of a character to be on Tv screen same with with Daredevil.

Exactly, it woulda been a sad thing if GR, still a major player in the Marvel Comics Universe were exiled to the Hulu corner or the Disney combine. He deserves a proper place in the MCU, but Disney suddenly has this policy of not portraying Occult type symbolisms in their productions (at least not overtly), so it may never happen. It looks like Hulu is the destination where all the shows involving paranormal or demon type characters are going to find their home, but I'm hoping this "pass" was a coordinated effort that will eventually lead to bigger things for one of my favorite characters. Either way, Johnny Blaze has been done (poorly, sorry Nick) Robbie's been done (bad story, sorry Gabriel) and with Disney's affinity for not crossing network boundaries (not sure why it's such a big deal if you own all those networks) I'm hoping Danny will get his shot either at Disney+ or the MCU. Of course, I'm sure his back story will be toned down a little to make him some kind of alien or science experiment gone wrong, but whatever. Make it good and we'll all watch

13 minutes ago, Atlantis said:

Yes, and they didn't have to be. They got to stay on the air this long because of their connection to the MCU, even after SHIELD was dismantled. So how are they getting funded? Where's their authority coming from? The writers are basically crippled because there's little way for them to know what they can or cant do, during the downtime between movies that wont jack up continuity. I think they should have focused on what SHIELD does outside of involvement with super heroes. Of course you cant afford to get Sam Jackson now and then or even once a season. But you can do an arc with the younger Fury....post Capt Marvel, pre Avengers. Showing SHIELD's espionage missions, taking down organizations like AIM or the Zodiac cartel. There's just a lot of things they could've done, and sadly wound up with a lot of missed potential.

What I meant was that it is in the MCU but the MCU ignores it.

Still you have a point, some flashback tales would have been cool

On ?9?/?26?/?2019 at 10:34 AM, leokearon said:

Agents of SHIELD the b######d child of the MCU.

Yes, and they didn't have to be. At least ABC let them stay on the airlong after they should have been cancelled, so that's something. But there are a lot of holes...with SHIELD dismantled and on the run, how are they getting funded?Equipped? Where's their authority coming from? The writers are basically crippled because there's little way for them to know what they can or cant do (during the downtime between movies) that wont jack up continuity.

I think they should have focused on what SHIELD does outside of involvement with super heroes. Of course you cant afford to get Sam Jackson now and then or even once a season. But you can do an arc with the younger Fury....post Capt Marvel, pre Avengers. Showing SHIELD's espionage missions, taking down organizations like AIM or the Zodiac cartel. There's just a lot of things they could've done, and sadly wound up with a lot of missed potential.

10 hours ago, bashpics99 said:

Keep in mind that the Ghost Rider is largely unseen when he's behind the wheel of the car so that saves a lot of CGI. That was part of the rationale for using a car on AoS, from what i've read. But yeah, its all moot anyhow.

You make a great point, certainly from the budget side. At the same time, its that kind of reluctance on the part of the studio, that hasme concerned about bringingGhost Riderto the screen at all. I worry they would do a cheap job which ruins the experience. For me, anyway.

I figure Hulu passed on Ghost Rider because it wouldn't be budget friendly with the CGI cost needed.

I'm sure the spirit of vengeance will live on somewhere.

3 hours ago, Atlantis said:

I know it came from the comics, and also that Johnny Blaze isn't the first or only person to carry that mantle. But I'd think the cycle would be cheaper than the car; its more versatile and would be able to out-stunt a charger any day. But its all moot....for now, anyway.

Keep in mind that the Ghost Rider is largely unseen when he's behind the wheel of the car so that saves a lot of CGI. That was part of the rationale for using a car on AoS, from what i've read. But yeah, its all moot anyhow.

12 hours ago, mako said:

Keep in mind, the car came from the comics, not from the show. As for why they used it? I'm sure it was cheaper to trick out a car with some CGI flames thanfabricatea big ole' custom Hell-Cycle in a machine shop, to say nothing of stunts being easier to pull off with a car.

I know it came from the comics, and also that Johnny Blaze isn't the first or only person to carry that mantle. But I'd think the cycle would be cheaper than the car; its more versatile and would be able to out-stunt a charger any day. But its all moot....for now, anyway.

9 minutes ago, mako said:

Yeah, that does tend to be one of the shows few weaknesses. They follow what's happening in whatever movie current. GOTG was in theaters, they went into space; Doctor Strange came out, they went all mystical. Most of the time it worked, but occasionally . . .

Agents of SHIELD the b######d child of the MCU.

48 minutes ago, mako said:

Have you ever watched an episode of either NCIS series? They do crap that a Federal agency would/could/should never be able to do on a weekly basis.

At least SHIELD is a spy agency in a comic book universe. You'd be surprised what floats into their wheel-house.

Assuming you're not one of those guys who would rather rag on it just to rag on it, you should give it a shot. They've kinda strayed over the last two or so season, but its still mostly a great show.

Never seen NCIS but Im sure they're doing things they shouldn't be doing (just like the ridiculous Blindshot show). Yep, I have given it (AOS)a shot, and I think they would've been far better centering the show around May and Coulson. At least they give you a sense of "SHIELD" as an organization. But I cant call it a great show because they've deviated so much from what SHIELD should be. When it first came out I knew I would have to put my Marvel Comics version aside, as its based on the MCU agency. But this show hasn't even been that. And its a shame because I really think it could've had potential.

At any rate, the Ghost Rider-car thing just never felt right to me. Can a Ghost Rider show ever come to a Hulu or Netflix? Sure, but at least make it the original motorcycle version first.

1 hour ago, memocromatico said:

Hasn't changed since season 2, justified perfectly with the narrative of the story. Didn't like it either, but I don't feel like it's something that can still be complained about 5 years later.

You can watch the show and find out, it kinda makes sense... at least more sense than when they go to space, but that's another subject completely.

Yes, youre right, the space story was just another feeble attempt to keep the series going by latching onto the Guardians of the Galaxy, which was hot at the time. All along though, theyre doing this as SHIELD even though its been basically dismantled.