On 2/9/2024 at 1:09 PM, ADour said:Old Man Fury resurfaced back in 2020 in the lead-up to Reckoning War. Uatu basically bursted out of his eye, doing away with the Unseen cryptic-speak shtick and returning Nick to his normal senses. He then acted as an agent of the Watcher. When the event ended, Uatu gifted him his citadel in the Blue Area of the Moon to keep doing his Man in the Wall black-ops shenanigans.
Oh wow, okay, didn't know this, that sounds fairly convoluted, but I guess I should expect that from current Marvel Stories.
On 2/9/2024 at 2:34 PM, AndyL said:Of course but it's the "Old Him". The bad him before his modern day rehabilitation. Aside from saying it was all just a bad dream sequence there is no way to bring Frank back from what they've done to him. I mean if anyone can make Punisher likeable again I guess it's Garth but I kind of think this is just a ploy by Marvel/Disney to put butts in the seats. Whatever he tries to do the end result will be what Disney allows. In the end I don't think they intend for the Punisher to ever come back to his previous glory. The genie has already been let out of the bottle.
Yeah, how does a character go from corruption, to redemption, to corruption and then redemption again, over and over and over....., and make it believable??Punisher was never ideal for a long-running standalone character. He's a good guy who became bad.....and stayed that way, and the only way to "freshen" that up is to muck with the fundamentals of the character. He would work far better now, in his original role........a recurring, visiting, anti-hero/villain, than as a headliner.
On 2/8/2024 at 3:57 PM, since83 said:Glad to see it's Frank.
Of course but it's the "Old Him". The bad him before his modern day rehabilitation. Aside from saying it was all just a bad dream sequence there is no way to bring Frank back from what they've done to him. I mean if anyone can make Punisher likeable again I guess it's Garth but I kind of think this is just a ploy by Marvel/Disney to put butts in the seats. Whatever he tries to do the end result will be what Disney allows. In the end I don't think they intend for the Punisher to ever come back to his previous glory. The genie has already been let out of the bottle.
On 2/9/2024 at 1:54 PM, Lord_Scareglow said:Actually feels really weird now to see the 616 Nick Fury, I felt like that variant just was completely axed out of comic lore, and the Ultimate (SLJ) version was just the definitive Nick Fury.
Old Man Fury resurfaced back in 2020 in the lead-up to Reckoning War. Uatu basically bursted out of his eye, doing away with the Unseen cryptic-speak shtick and returning Nick to his normal senses. He then acted as an agent of the Watcher. When the event ended, Uatu gifted him his citadel in the Blue Area of the Moon to keep doing his Man in the Wall black-ops shenanigans.
Too bad it's just a flashback. We've still lost both of these classic characters.
Actually feels really weird now to see the 616 Nick Fury, I felt like that variant just was completely axed out of comic lore, and the Ultimate (SLJ) version was just the definitive Nick Fury.
Glad to see it's Frank.